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Kimkins – Magic Chicken Diet

Posted in kimkins with tags , , , , , , , on March 12, 2008 by kimkinscam

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OK, I’ve spent 3+++ Days on this post and I’ve given up!

I need some help here, guys!

It’s like a full time job – going back and connecting the dots….so if any of you could shed some light on these connections, or add to them, I’d be more than appreciative.

I feel like if I keep going at this by myself, I’ll never get it (this post) up and posted.  LOL

So keep watching, as I continue to add more and more information to this post over the next few days.  I’ve only touched on very little of this massive, underwater,  iceberg.  I think there is much more to be found.

NEW ADDITIONS WILL BE IN YELLOW 

Here is the original post: 

Is there a common thread?  A common denominator? 

Let’s look at some similarities and differences between the  two and You Be the Judge!

Mariasol has done an amazing recreation of the time-line on the creation and development of the Magic Chicken Diet.  Read all about it here at Mariasol’s Blog.

MCD Time Line:

  •  9/23/02 – Bonnie’s brother registers his condle site candleboxcandles dot com through DomainPeople, Inc.
  • 6/08/06 – Kimmer leaves LCF and opens Kimkins.com
  • 8/01/06 – Bonnie claims to have started her diet
  • 9/07/06 – Bonnie registered her condle site through HostMonster
  • 5/02/07 – MCD website is registered
  • 6/10/07 – Bonnie’s husband, David places an ad at GetAFreelancer for a “CLONE” of Kimkins.
  • 6/12/07 – Bonnie’s 50th Birthday – She has lost 160 pounds in 10 months
  • 6/26/07 – The “Fascination With Kimmer” thread begins at LCF.  First post by “Paula Jayne” asking about Kimmer’s before and after picture.
  • 6/28/07 – Another “Texas Candle Factory” site is registered to someone in CA.
  • 7/03/07 – Kimmer’s Classmate.com picture found by “Tooter” at LCF
  • 7/20/07 – The MCD site is launched.   $19.95 will buy the first 200 members a lifetime membership.
  • 9/11/07 – Bonnie posts her first comment on her site.  She also trys her hand at marketing – by creating a couple of MySpace profiles and uploading pictures and videos of her weight loss success.  She has jumped in with both feet at this point.
  • 10/6/07 – Bonnie’s brother modifies his site through DomainPeople, Inc.
  • 12/9/07 – Bonnie decides to increase the “introductory” price to $69.95. (WOW- such a big jump for such a new company) Even though it is believed that there were only 20 members on board at this time.  And most, if not all were personal friends of Bonnie’s.
  • 12/16/07 – Bonnie’s magic chicken dot net site was registered
  • 12/20/2007 – The Lupers registered the MCD dot net site. 
  • 1/31/08 – Someone installed new software at the main MCD site and ALL 70 posts went POOF – GONE!  
  • 2/04/08  – Bonnie (?) modified the MCDdot NET site through HostMonster
  • 2/6/08 – Bonnie modified her candle site through HostMonster
  • 2/6/08  – Someone started a VERY UGLY posting rampage at the MCD dot net site.  It was apparent that the “ducks” had ticked Bonnie and/or David off.  The ramblings were painful to read and seemed to be written by a very disturbed person.  It stayed that way for a few weeks and then it was changed. 

Here’s something else:  Hulon Pate left a strange comment on Jimmy’s board on 12/14/07 – and was “called out” for being a “liar” by several of the ducks.  Could this be what spoiled something the MCD people had up there sleeves, that warrented  $69.95 price tag?  It was around this time that the price jumped from $19.95 to $69.95

Kimkins time line as it relates to the MCD site info above.  Most of what I’ve written here comes from old posts at Ducky’s, Slamboard and KK Controversy sites.  My point is to try and find a connection (in regards to dates) between MCD and Heidi.  For instance, cause and effect…. if something happened at KK, did it affect MCD in someway?? Or vice versa??

  • 4/22/06 – With the agreement of Heidi Diaz, Kimkins.com is registered in Catherine MacDonald’s name at GoDaddy.com
  • 4/25/06 – The partnership agreement between Catherine and Heidi was signed
  • 6/8/06 – Kimmer leaves LCF and starts Kimkins.com
  • 6/12/06 – Tippy joins Kimkins and quickly starts the Kimmer Foster Kid Challenge
  • 9/06/06Catherine requests a renegotiation of the buyout clause
  • 9/24/06 – Tippy quits posting at KK and goes back to LCF
  • 12/30/06 – Tippy returns to KK for 11 days and them goes back to LCF
  • 4/07 –         Christin has a Womans’ World photoshoot in California
  • 6/12/07 – Woman’s World Kimkins article hits the news stands
  • 7/26/07 – Kimmer (?) posts an ad for a Freelancer at GetAFreelancer.com to be a “sockpuppet”(same site David made an inquiry for the MCD website)
  • 8/14/07 – Email exchange between Heidi & Christin about “law” mentions hiding money
  • 8/16/07 – Becky leaves Kimkins – Other admins. leave shortly after.
  • 8/27/07 – After the original admins had left KK – Tippy started posting again at KK
  • 9/1/07 – Tippy is now Heidi’s “right hand man”
  • 9/05/07 – Real pictures of Heidi Diaz (Kimmer) were released.
  • 9/07/07 – Heidi receives complaint from BBB and the CA Medical Board
  • 9/10/07 – The Class Action Lawsuit is underway.  Thank you, Jeanessa!
  • 9/24/07  – Heidi forms Halcyon Web,LLC  & Sharp Plumbing,LLC
  • 10/3/07 – KTLA airs the story on Kimmer and the Kimkins diet
  • 10/4/07 – Many of the KK success story’s before and after photos were proved FAKE – Found on Russian bride mail order sites.
  • 10/4/07 – Kimmer sends email stating that Kimkins was now under new management.
  • 10/06/07 – Kimmer’s “red dress” after photo – FOUND!  another Russian Bride “Lesya”
  • 10/18/07 – Heidi withdraws $878,253.79 from investment account
  • 11/09/07 – Heidi writes check to the US Treasury Department $700,000 & $100,000  to the Franchise Tax Board
  • 11/12/07 – Kimmer meets with John T. for her deposition – Assets FROZEN
  • 11/16/07 – The Court entered an order to issue a Writ of Attachment on Heidi’s assets
  • 11/23/07 – Heidi’s SSDI benefits were terminated
  • 11/27/07 – Tippy posts at KK that she is taking a computer break
  • 11/27/07 – Tippy joins Amy at “Eating Low” under the name of JeannieLynn
  • 11/28/07 – Another KTLA update on Kimkins
  • 12/04/07 – Tippy leaves the Kimpound and tries to find another home at “eating low with Amy”
  • 12/10/07 – Marisol discovers the Magic Chicken Diet and posts about it on her blog
  • 12/13/07  – Hulon Pate (David and Bonnie’s “son-in-law”) leaves a comment on Marisol’s blog.
  • 12/13/07 – Becky’s rant, defending the chicken lady, at Jimmy Moore’s site and stomping all over the folks at LCF.
  • 12/14/07 – Brian and Heather (former front page success stories) leave KK and start CampCarbAway with Tippy
  • 12/17/07 – Yust Yucky posts a copy of the MCD diet in pdf form.
  • 12/24/07 – Fawn starts her FIRST blog – praising Kimmer and Tippy
  • 1/03/08 – Kimmer raises membership fee at Kimkins to $79.95
  • 1/19/08 – Kimkins makes the Good Morning America show on ABC
  • 1/23/08 –  Heidi’s second deposition with John Tiedt
  • 2/18/08 – Fawn requests refund from Kimmer and leaves the Kimpound
  • 2/28/08 – Fawn reports that she has received her refund from Kimmer

LOOK FOR MORE UPDATES SOON!  I FIND MORE AND MORE INTERESTING TIDBITS EVERYDAY! 

What happened to the ‘boys in the hood’?

Posted in kimkins with tags , , , , , , , , , , , , , on March 7, 2008 by kimkinscam

UPDATE!

According to  Medusa's source, Fawn (Butterfly) is back at Camp.  Well, that didn't take long!  

I think Fawn just answered a bunch of my questions as to her motive in regards to her most recent RANTS.  Big Fat Lies.  The picture just gets clearer and clearer! 

Yet, I still wait..... to hear it from the horses mouth.  Fawn, if you're reading, I'd love to get a comment from you regarding my interpretation of your motives.

I've gotten no answers from Fawn, regarding my previous post,  so I thought I'd clear a few things up before I move on to the Magic Chicken Diet.

It has been posted on the FWK thread and at Bama's blogthat Fawn has decided to pull the plug on her blog and will leave camp so as to not cause trouble for the members there.  I am stunned by this information.   Was this the reason for all the BIG talk?  Was it fawn's intention to dare the ducks to respond to her crazy postings, knowing full well how they would respond, only to cry fowl and run away?  If this is the case, then I haven't given fawn enough credit.  She is smarter than I once thought.  With a single post at camp she was able to put an even wider divide between the ex-kk folk and the ducks.  Once again, the ducks are the evil ones and the emphasis is shoved further away from Heidi.  Was this the intent?   "Poor Fawn", says the members at camp!  "Don't let the anti-kimkins people win" !  These are the kind of responses fawn received after her announcement that she would be leaving.  WHATEVER!!!  What this latest development tells me is that there is more to all this than meets the eye.  

I certainly can't speak for anyone else, only myself. But, I would like to say that I have NO problem with fawn and her photos or alternative lifestyle. Both, are her business and she certainly has a right to do what she wants with her photos and/or her own body.My problem is with the flip flopping, nice one minute, nasty and threatening the next, fawn. I can't figure out if she is who she says she is (because it changes so frequently) or something/someone else. Sock Puppet, Defender, Advocate of Heidi and her site... or EX-Kimkinite for a 'REASON'. Did Heidi do something to fawn to tick her off? Was it her or someone else who stole her pictures and story for her (Heidi's) own gain? Or did someone else tick fawn off?

Or maybe, just maybe, IT'S A BIG FAT LIE!!!Intended to make the ducks look bad.  hmmmm - It could be!

Her own words, on her blog set off this firestorm. IMO, none of this (the pictures, the blog posts) would have come to light (or had much bearing), had she not rambled on the way she did. After all, wasn't it fawn who said "BRING IT ON" "IF YOU DARE"? I think the ducks just did what she asked, they brought it.   And Fawn ran away!  

Oh Heidi, What a tangled web we weave

Posted in kimkins with tags , , , , , , , , on February 26, 2008 by kimkinscam

BREAKING NEWS!!!

Based on reliable and accurate information,it has been uncovered that “Martina’s Martini” (recent troll at the LCF’s FWK thread) shares the same IP address as our dear friend (NOT!), Heidi K. Diaz.   So, what does this mean?  Martina and Heidi are “one in the same”?  What are the odds of  Martina being, let’s say, Brandon?  Not likely!!!

It apparently has been discovered that our troll Martina tried to intimidate one of the participants in the lawsuit with a threatening email.   Heidi has also been going to extreme measures lately,  pointing the finger at many of the principals in the case.  Tippy Toes, I hope you are on the up and up – because Heidi’s coming after you, darling.  She is desperate – desperate to keep her money and have someone else take the fall.  She is NOT above bullying those that she believes can hurt her in court.  I believe she thinks if she can make the principals in the case look devious or fraudulent themselves, then she feels she can beat this lawsuit.  She thinks that by throwing previous (or current for that matter, SL) KK admins under the bus – it will somehow help her out in the case and insure that she gets to keep her money and her website.   So, you tell me, does Martina = Heidi ?????

WOW!  – New information , just in-

We may have a few more clues…. Seems that Yucky, Medusa and Prudentiahave put a few things together and they ALL point to Heidi Diaz and her “imaginary friends” – GREAT SLEUTHING, you guys!! We all knew we could count on you guys to get to the truth. Even if it meant traveling to California. Hope you had a great trip! Obviously, you learned plenty.

Someone should have a running list of ALL the sock-puppets and fictitious characters Heidi has fabricated over the past few years. Because, I’m having a hard time keeping up!!!  Oh, Honeybee…. you working on that one?

Maybe – just maybe “the other shoe” and “fedup” were just a couple more of Heidi’s “Figments” – Just like Martina, crispybread, kimkinite101 and many more. It would seem that she is getting extremely desperate that she is trying to force ANYONE and EVERYONE she can into the spot light – to keep it OFF OF HER!!

Of course this won’t work – because all the “Negative Nancies” and “Ducks” are hot on her trail. I think the days of “getting over” on the innocent are coming to an end. Just like her site. And let’s hope, her FREEDOM.

More Cryptic Messages

Posted in kimkins with tags , , , , , , , , , , on February 21, 2008 by kimkinscam

I’d like to rewind a little and revisit a few comments that had me scratching my head the other day.  At first, I thought these comments were left by our friendly (or not so friendly) troll “Martina.”  Now, I’m not so sure!  Only because I’ve had a few days to digest it all and have come to the conclusion that maybe they were left by someone other than Martina.  After-all, Martina was not shy about putting her/his name on their comments.  So why would he/she use these names to identify them-self?  Unless they just wanted to keep the ducks guessing and cause more confusion. 

In case you missed it…. here are the comments that were posted at mariasol’s blog    2/14/08  &  2/16/08  

(remember Heidi was due to go before the judge on 2/18/08 to try to get her money unfrozen)

the other shoe said…
One. Name that tune: “They will not rest, apparently, until Tippy’s site and this lady’s site and anyplace else current Kimkins members might really fell warmly welcomed is gone.”Two. Name that step. Three. Name that set which consists of those sets b, bb, hb, jbb, jmb.
Then when no one  really made an effort to figure out the puzzle, this comment was left on 2/16/08
fedup said…
One. Name that tune: “They will not rest, apparently, until Tippy’s site and this lady’s site and anyplace else current Kimkins members might really fell warmly welcomed is gone.” = Becky mad cause she n Tippy in bidnez together, gonna quick rich get, hawking Kimkins diet by any other name. Where to set up shop? Inside the Jimpire? Oh no you don’t say the Jimmy. And all the Jimmyjoes say Oh no you don’t, mama don’t allow no Tippy toein round here. Becky all hmmph n poo on yall, ain’t no big thang’ cause see she got someplace else to go.
Two.  Name that step.= Texas Two Step. Becky n Bonnie in bidnez together, gonna quick rich get, hawking Kimkins diet by any other name. Where to set up shop? Inside the Chicken coop? Oh no you don’t say the Nancies. And all the Ducks say Oh no you don’t, mama don’t allow no finger lickin round here. Becky all hmmph n poo on yall, and it’s a big thang now cause see she runnin outa someplace elses to go.

Three. Name that set which consists of those sets b, bb, hb, jbb, jmb.= MCD.net exit here Becky, Becky&Bonnie, Heidi&Becky, Jeannie&Becky, Jimmy&Becky. Get on out here. We — the people — the fed up with your greed, your lies, your conniving and your coverups — we’ve had it. Get out. You don’t have to go home but you can’t stay here.

  I almost missed the last comment.  I just happened to go back to see if anyone had responded since my last visit —  and there it was.  Someone was trying desperately to “out” Becky.  Does this have anything to do with Heidi’s court date?  Afterall, she is trying really hard to get her assets “unfrozen”  – Could Heidi have left these comments?  If not, then who else has it out for Becky?  Who is trying to make Becky look as bad as Heidi?  

Now, let me make this perfectly clear, I’m no Becky fan – not after her previous delivery of a hand grenade into the midst of the ducks –  but, if these above comments are accurate,  Becky’s “greed” and “need to cuddle up” to the likes of Tippy Toes, Kimmer, Jimmy Moore and Bonnie are her own short comings (Shameful, YES).  None of us want to see ANOTHER KIMKINS SITE!!  Even if they want to call it something else.  But, this doesn’t add up to fraud (IMO).  Heidi Diaz seems to have invented the words fraud and scam artist.   Let’s look at it this way…. what if Heidi wanted to SPREAD the guilt around?   Doesn’t it make sense that if Heidi wanted to point her fat little fingers at someone to make them the scapegoat – it would make sense to point them in the direction of Becky?  It’s already common knowledge that the ducks have been suspicious of her in the past.  So wouldn’t it benefit her to try and put Becky’s head on the chopping block so to speak?  If she could.

 Just because Becky seems to be on the side of the ducks (by way of the lawsuit) doesn’t necessarily make her one of us.  That’s true!  Maybe she’s the “Judas” among us?  And it does leave a nasty taste in my mouth to even think that way. YUCK!    BUT! and it’s a very BIG BUT, this in NO WAY negates the damage and criminal tactics of Heidi Kimberly Diaz.  Becky may be guilty of her own crimes… (maybe not!)  but until she starts (or we can prove that she already has been) taking innocent victim’s money at the expense of their health, I’m going to look beyond her and keep watching Heidi.    I agree there is plenty to learn about Becky!!  And, when and if, it’s found out that she is somehow still involved with Heidi…. and acting as a double agent (wolf in sheep’s clothing)….. that’s when Becky will need to be addressed.  And believe me when I say, I’ll be looking for it.  But, for now, my radar is still on Heidi and her future (or unknown) scams.  To me, she is a MUCH BIGGER THREAT!!!

If the “shoe” comment and the “fedup” comment weren’t written by Heidi, then who? “Martina”?????   If you’re out there and want to give us more information – please leave a comment here.  I’d love to know more about the information you’ve given us above.  Help us put the dots together… so we can have a clearer picture of what you are trying to say. 

 

OMG – Does someone have to die before KK is shut down?

Posted in kimkins with tags , , , , , , , , , on February 20, 2008 by kimkinscam

Two VERY alarming pieces of information has come to light in the past couple of days, that really has the hair on the back of my neck standing on end.  Both incidents involve the health and well being of kimkin’s members or their loved ones.  With all the information plastered across the web, it is unbelievable to me that this could even happen.  We have been SCREAMING at the top of our lungs that the kimkins diet is dangerous and could cause extreme health problems.  Yet, there are still those that WILL NOT listen to reason and continue to follow this extremely dangerous way of eating. 

Yesterday one of the posters on the FWK thread quoted a member from the kimkins forum who was asking others there for help with her ill husband.  Not asking for a medical professional – but, asking the other kool-aid infected members for advice.  Here is the post that was on the FWK thread. 

 http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/9960986-post947.html

Katinsac copied this post directly from the boards at KK to show the others what was going on at the paid membership only site.  Another member at LCF took that post and blogged about the incident at her site: GrilledCheesewithPickles

It’s frightening to think that this woman would consciously decide to ask for help for her husband by posting on a message board.  HE NEEDS MEDICAL ATTENTION.  Not advice from a known criminal and scam artist.  Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) DOES NOT CARE IF YOUR HUSBAND IS IN A DIABETIC COMA!!!! She cares about SCAMMING PEOPLE.  Yes, maybe someone on that site (a member) might have some medical experience or background.  But, come on, do you really want to risk your husband’s life by listening to someone who would follow this unhealthy plan?  Someone who BELIEVES IN KIMKINS???? That would be the last place I’d go for sound medical advice.  The brainwashing that goes on at that site is just UNBELIEVABLE to me. 

And today, there is another tragic story.  On the front page of the Kimkin’s website there is  a member who is participating in the “watch us lose” ad campaign.  This is where Kimmer, admins and members can show their weight loss success story by posting before and current pictures of themselves as they lose. 

Honeybee posted a comment on the FWK thread after doing some research on this above mentioned member.  Here is her post.

http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/9965375-post1051.html

Why doesn’t this woman see the connection between her diet and her heart condition?  How can she come back, after going through her ordeal, to start this nutritionally bankrupt diet all over again?  WHAT IN THE WORLD IS SHE THINKING???  Doesn’t she realize that her heart condition is most likely related to this unhealthy diet?   Why isn’t her family, friends or loved ones  demanding that she NOT go back to this way of eating?  Especially after what she has been through.

I am desperately afraid for the folks still following this ridiculous diet.  My heart breaks more and more each time I read stories like this coming from inside that dreadful place.  PLEASE – I’M BEGGING YOU!  IF YOU ARE STILL FOLLOWING THIS DIET OR THINKING OF FOLLOWING IT, PLEASE THINK TWICE. Think about how crazy this plan is.  Read the <Kimkins Survivor Stories.  DO THE RESEARCH and find out for yourself all you can about this site and it’s founder.   If you won’t or can’t do this for yourselves – do it for your loved ones.  They don’t deserve to watch you kill yourself!  YOU ARE WORTH SO MUCH MORE THAN THIS!!  Numbers on the scale are not worth risking your health.  And you may not even know, until MUCH LATER, the price you have paid for following that plan.  

Heidi, Heidi, Heidi…..

Posted in kimkins with tags , , , , , , , , , , on February 19, 2008 by kimkinscam

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When will you ever learn?

We don’t want to see “Fake” pictures of you!  Or pictures of when you were 18!  Furthermore, we’d rather not look at your “Photoshopped” ones either! (even though they are fun to pick apart!)

How about, (here’s a thought)…… REAL ONES!!!!  not Tweaked!! not Russians!!  You’re 50 years old, so teenagers don’t count either!! 

Just how long did it take you to dig this one up?   Was this one taken back when you weren’t SHY?  Because, that’s a mighty low cut nighty you have on.

If this IS you (which I highly doubt) how old were you?  20?  Come on Heidi, I know the kool-aid you serve at the Kimpire is some pretty strong stuff, but really!

Do you really expect your members to look at this picture and say.,… “See, she did loose weight on her diet”.    “She wasn’t 300++++ pounds the whole time”  “All that stress made her gain it all back and then some”

HA!

Not buying it, babe!  Not for a split, second! 

You may be able to pull the wool over  your “followers” eyes- but NOT AROUND HERE!!  NOT ANY MORE!!!  But, GOOD TRY!  Ill give you that.

Now, run a long…. and have another sugar cookie!

  

Wolf In Sheep’s Clothing

Posted in Uncategorized with tags , , , , , on January 31, 2008 by kimkinscam

Are you a WOLF or SHEEP?

Wolf in Sheep’s Clothing

Fable of Aesop… 

According to the fable, a hungry wolf came upon a sheep‘s fleece lying on the on ground in a field. The wolf realized that if it wore the fleece, it would look like a sheep from a distance. That would enable the wolf to sneak up on a flock of sheep and steal a lamb for its supper, before the shepherd noticed his presence.The wolf put on the fleece, and went off in search of a flock of sheep. It spied a flock of sheep just as the sun was setting, and approached the flock. Just as it was about to pounce on a lamb, a shepherd came by, looking for a sheep to slaughter for supper. Thinking the disguised wolf was a sheep, the shepherd quickly grabbed and killed the wolf.An alternate version is, another wolf is sneaking around looking for a sheep for dinner, and pounces on the wolf in sheep’s clothing, killing it and eating it for supper instead of a real sheep.

The intended lesson was, “Frauds and liars are always discovered, eventually, and pay for their actions accordingly.”

The above passage was taken from here

 sheep-wolf.jpg

Hey, Kimmer!

Make sure you re-read that last line of the Fable.

Now, my initial reason for blogging about “wolves in sheep’s clothing”  was to use it here, in this blog, to talk about the sock-puppets, double agents, etc… in regards to this SAGA called the “Kimkins Controversy”.  Because there seems to be a handful of pro-Kimkins supporters wandering around the anti kk blogs spewing their nonsense, it’s become important, for me, to understand why.   Some go by a “screen name” and others, just “anonymous”.  They leave “drive by” comments on the blogs in support of the diet and the con artist, herself.

One in particular comes to mind and she knows who she is. She apparently is a whole lot more dangerous than the others. 

At-least, in her own mind. 

In the middle of this fight against KK and Heidi Diaz, there are challenges and contests, undercover operations, data collection operations and reporting information efforts to the attorneys involved in the case.  There are pleas to Federal authorities, article writers and affiliates to stop supporting this dangerous woman and her website.  Evidence is collected, shared and saved for future needs.  Blogs are being implemented in an attempt to help spread the word and inform the public to the dangers of the Kimkins diet.

My question today is, who is on the up and up and who isn’t?  Could it be that there is a duck (or ducks) among us who is acting as a double agent?  Someone who is pretending to be helpful and in support of our mission, yet isn’t?  All the while, being in cahoots with Heidi Diaz and actually supporting the Kimkins starvation diet.   In my opinion, the idea of this being true, is ALMOST worse than being Heidi, herself.  Who, in their right mind, would knowingly and deceptively try to undermine the efforts of the “real ducks”?   

What, exactly would be gained by such efforts?  Would it be just to stop the uncovering of Heidi’s fraud?  It doesn’t make sense!  She has already admitted to such.  She admits on the front page of her site that she is a Con and has committed Fraud.  Would it be to simply keep the ducks from spreading the word about this unhealthy diet?  If so, why wouldn’t they (even the followers) want others to be careful with their health?  Why is it so hard to see how much pain and suffering former members have had to go through for following this diet?  Wouldn’t it be the humane thing to do to warn potential victims of the price already paid by those that have already followed the diet and have become victims themselves – in the effort to keep others from following suit?

It’s disgusting to me to realize that there are those that would be so inhumane, heartless, callous and evil.  Those, that would knowingly undermine the efforts of the people who only have the best interests of others in mind, can only be called deranged and unbalanced.  

So again – I ask – WHAT IS YOUR AGENDA?

What are you trying to gain?

To help you (the reader) understand where this post is coming from.  I leave you with this….From the comments left at 2Big4MySize’s Blog…. 

By: Dana on January 23, 2008          
at 4:15 pm

I have not been proven wrong on anything. I am doing Kimkins AS WRITTEN. Whether you choose to believe that or not. I have discussed what I eat with Kimmer several times. She has never, not one time, EVER told me to eat less of anything. Run away? LOL from what? I am just done talking to you. I am going to be promoting the plan as much and as often as I can. By the way, you admitted to being banned, yet you and your little ducks continue to go into the site. Interesting indeed! Too bad you cannot come out with more accurate information. Also, how is YOUR WEIGHT LOSS GOING? 

By: Dana on January 23, 2008
at 4:33 pm

Great job on the weight loss! Now would it surprise you to know that I am pretending to be one of your little duckie friends on those threads? Try and guess which one. I don’t think you can but if you do, I will admit to it to you. 

By: 2big4mysize on January 23, 2008
at 4:41 pm

You know for somebody who was so disgusted with LCF and the FWK topic you actually joined kimkins.con and then wonder about the ducks going in and out of the kimkins.con site quietly keeping tabs on that dangerous diet I’m amazed you’d post something like that. Trying to stir up dissention in the ranks by causing ducks to distrust each other? Not only a coward would claim they value their friendship with hiedi and support her yet be too faced about it and claim to be a duck posting antikimmer and kimkins info.
Since LCFS is a free site and anybody can read any topic I’d believe you are simply a lurker wannabe
 

By: Dana on January 23, 2008
at 4:52 pm

LOL. You go ahead and believe whatever you choose to believe. If its good for the goose, its good for the gander, right? It’s ok if you guys do it, but not us? Right! There are more than you even know. 

By: 2big4mysize on January 23, 2008
at 7:47 pm

Dana Dana Dana
you need to keep your comments straight. you are the one who was upset ducks were still going into Kimkins, not me. LCFs is a free place to visit, read and and post to. membership is free. All are welcome.
I feel it is hypocritical for somebody to pretend to be Kimmers friend and post in that topic against her is all, which you are saying you do. There is no goose nor gander here. Ducks do not pretend to like Kimmer inside the kimpire now do they?
If you wish to continue to discuss the dangers of the kimkins diet you are more then welcome to keep posting here. I would welcome new information that Kimmer is making the kimkins diet healthier, but alas you have no new news to share about the plan. Still cals too low and healthy needed fats too low.
 

By exposing this here, It might start some fireworks on the FWK thread and I really don’t want people to become paranoid – but I think it’s important to bring this to the attention of others who may not have seen this exchange…. so that they can be careful who they share information with. 

It bothers me (deeply) to think that there are people who want to undermine the efforts of bringing Heidi to justice and those that don’t mind watching people suffer from following a very dangerous diet.

 

Those are MY thoughts….. what’s yours?